User blog comment:B214/Volume 17 spoilers./@comment-80.117.31.24-20140224205414

◾Vali also appears at the begining of volume 17 to spar with First Gen Sun Wukong. Though Vali can't land a single hit against him. ◾According to First Gen, Vali is above Ise overall. But Ise goes past at Vali in terms of attack power and direct speed at times. Though both of them has the weakness of running out of stamina due to their Sacred Gear. ◾Vali says Ise's CCQ is more stable than his EJOD since Vali can't use his EJOD even during training. ◾First Gen says EJOD is better than JD but both of them have the same part which is to release their full potential strength at once. ◾First Gen says Vali and Ise are the first host to bring out such crazy power though few previous hosts did use their power in a unique way. (Despite Ise still being called the weakest host few volumes ago. Seriously. WTF) ◾Albion thinks that the God of the Bible didn't get rid of their power and only sealed them. He thinks the key to unlock them is the mutual understanding between the Two Heavenly Dragons. ◾Saji spars with Dulio. Though Saji continues to lose against him. ◾Oh and for Irina fans. Irina apparently made some promise with Ise in the past. And it seems like that "promised day" is to come.