User blog comment:B214/Question and Answers 6/@comment-190.164.227.239-20161201033222/@comment-10330822-20161206045526

@B214, except you are missing my point, if its about what they are capable of without Divine Dividing, than it is purely because of physical ability.

Just because Vali can fight without his armor doesn't mean it would be smart to do so, Vali can let his emotions get the better of him. Azazel talks like Vali is the strongest meerly because of his bloodline, not because he is actually extremely powerful in his own right.

Plus, if the White Dragon is so strong in comparison to the old ones simply because of this, than I doubt there were any Vasco-tier Divine Dividing hosts in the past. After all, Vali might be strong, but I seriously doubt he is Vasco tier without his armor.

This goes back to Balzard, if Boosted Gear users are ranked purely because of their power without Ddraig, than it would mean that Balzard is to Boosted Gear what Vali is to Divine Dividing, which puts even more doubts on him actually being Vasco-tier. Because there is no Divine Dividing person who could have logically beat him, and we have no proof of that. Balzard was simply stated to have defeated two White Dragons, and  any connection to his power as Vasco-tier are mere speculation at this point.

Do you get what I am saying? It seems there is a much bigger wall for someone like Ise to climb than there was for Vali because of this vagueness about Balzard. Ise may have been the weakest in the past, but he is a True Dragon now, just like Vali, and his strength in Scale Mail is pretty much the same as Vali's, meaning physically they are in the same league. So if its all about potential power and bloodlines, Ise should be better than Balzard, just like Vali is considered to be the best for his bloodlines. Plus, if Balzard was only considered the most powerful because of him defeating two White Dragons, this could apply to Ise too. If Ise killed Vali, he'd live long enough to see another White Dragon and more than likely be able to kill him too because logically speaking no person is mastering the Juggernaut. Ise shouldn't have to actual do such a trival task to be considered as strong, when Vali never had to do so. In short, Balzard's feat is more impressive because he lived so long, and defeated his rival White Dragon early so he could fight another, it wasn't because he was unmatched for two generations. But Ise is a dragon, so its not like outliving Vali is going to be hard, even if he defeats him and doesn't kill him.

Besides, we have no idea Ise can't fight without his armor. Because when Ise was fighting the Stray Magicians, he still was doing a pretty good job. He can transform parts of his body into a dragon and still breath and resist fire, even if Ddraig isn't there. Plus, Ise is all fit, so we have no idea how strong he is to say somone like Vali anyway. For all we know Ise could fight without Ddraig, just like Vali and Albion, he just chooses not to, just like Vali. For all we know he could take Vali in a fist fight. Plus, Ise needs incredible strength and stamina to power Scale Mail to the degree he does, which is in the league of Vali. It's not like it comes from no where, if Ise has the same level of power in Boosted Gear that Vali does, than it would mean he compares to Vali in terms of things like normal speed, strength, and stamina, even wihtout the armor. Things lie flying don't really matter now because Ise can fly on his own.

The real question is if Vali's magic should be considered the tipping factor. How strong is Ise compared to Balzard without the armor? We are just assuming Ise is weak underneath because he doesn't fight without the armor. That is what this is ultimately boiling down to.