User blog comment:Crimson and Darkness/Volume 24 discussion blog/@comment-2601:152:100:2320:B8B3:2126:3233:EE96-20171217194958/@comment-2001:E68:6DD7:7600:6CF0:A296:AE1:D779-20171220070915

No need vali to get powerups, we have read through 20+ volumes of vali being ahead of Issei, time of Issei to surpass vali

Whatever powerup vali gets does anyone seriously think its going to be on the level of Gr+Ophis+Ddraig power that Issei will get,

mind you lillith is not a super devil or anywhere near Dragon god level what can she give that could outstrip what GR and Ophis gave Issei?

he essentially has the powers of 3 out of the 5 strongest dragons plus he has a dragon slayer and holy element both of which is lethal to Vali no matter how strong he is (vol 4 Issei was able to shatter vali's BB with ascalon)