User blog comment:B214/Shin DxD 1 discussion/@comment-41.141.233.60-20180818195452/@comment-196.64.23.22-20180819204843

Furthermore if you want to speak about Joker vs Vali well Vali is definitely stronger don't forget that Issei with only partial transformation (you know the partial black armour) fought equally against him so just imagine Issei using his pseudo dragon deification he would definitely be stronger you know ? Now imagine that Vali dragon maouification is said to be more complete than issei's. So for me it's already obvious in term of pure power Vali is above Dulio well of course if you want to speak about team vs team now tactics and all could play in favor of Dulio or  Vali but in term of power Vali is definitely above