User blog comment:B214/Volume 23 discussion blog/@comment-31137559-20170405233652/@comment-31137559-20170406033916

@Tengen

Actually you got them switched around. The bullshit one is the second one you mentioned. A -dere in my mind has to have feelings for the said character. And a tsundere does hide or express her feelings for the guy with harsh words or violence. You described Koneko with the second one. Koneko merely just gets on him for having lecherous thoughts and for being a pervert which is well deserved. And she would be quite open with her feelings towards him, she wouldn't express those feelings with harsh words or violence. The tsun- doesn't come before the -dere. They happen at the same time. A tsundere will have their moments where they're kind to the guy they love, but mostly they express their feelings with harsh words and violence towards the guy which is no fault of his own. While Koneko gets on Issei for having lecherous thoughts and being a pervert. See the difference?