User blog comment:Crimson and Darkness/Shin DxD 3 discussion/@comment-41.13.12.215-20190801100529/@comment-1605975-20190803203921

@A FANDOM user Perhaps, although even if some hidden factor awakens within Vali due to Lilith and turns him into a Transcendental, I reckon he's still going to be lacking in power when facing the UL, whose leaders easily surpass Dragon God level. On the other hand, attaining the power of 12 super weapons which are equal to the Longinus should theoretically enable Vali to reach, or perhaps even surpass Ise's future ExE form.