User blog comment:B214/Shin DxD 1 discussion/@comment-93.132.65.47-20180926201139/@comment-2601:87:8300:20D0:5CBA:DD28:BF43:508B-20180926223544

Yeah nice try but you skip what it said above it about in terms of skills, technique and speed Vali is better. I say Issei is more or less the same and it takes more than raw strength to win. After every battle in this novel, you would think you'd learn that by now. Also not this again about who's holding back there was already an argument about that.