User blog comment:B214/Shin DxD 1 discussion/@comment-36663391-20180920083134/@comment-2601:87:8300:20D0:928:FD29:7461:29C3-20180922014624

To me a true draw in a  fight is when both players collapsed. I think most people would agree that those two weren't completely satisfied. Also if being tired was a factor both Vali, Issei and so many others would have lost their battles. How many times have we read and saw players who fought people that should have been beyond them but came out on top. Besides it was obvious that both Vali and Crom were still holding back. I think it's too soon to see an outcome. Vali was still standing even after fighting Rias top two players.